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luigicoinmagic
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09/01/2018, 12:07

sfogliando ho notato che tecniche come il The Front Finger Hold e il The Back Palm si usa un sacco il mignolo a meno che non la impalmi piu bassa ma poi penso sarebbe in una posizione sbagliata in caso le posso saltare?

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09/01/2018, 12:17

luigicoinmagic ha scritto:
09/01/2018, 12:07
sfogliando ho notato che tecniche come il The Front Finger Hold e il The Back Palm si usa un sacco il mignolo a meno che non la impalmi piu bassa ma poi penso sarebbe in una posizione sbagliata in caso le posso saltare?
A parte le tecniche che ho nominato prima, non serve molto altro per iniziare ;)
Ti dirò anzi che in realtà moltissime cose possono essere fatte anche con la metà di quelle tecniche, puoi farti un repertorio incredibile senza nemmeno imparare il classic palm. Dipende da te.

Nello specifico, Back Palm e Front Finger Hold non sono praticamente usate. Il vantaggio della monetomagia poi è che parecchie tecniche possono essere usate per arrivare allo stesso effetto. Vai tranquillo e lasciati guidare da quello che le tue mani riescono a fare. Il Bobo non è un libro come il Card College, in cui è presentato tutto passo a passo e in ordine crescente di difficoltà. È un compendio di tecniche e di effetti: sbaglieresti a volerlo imparare a menadito subito. Per farti capire, io lo studio da 3 anni e ancora non so tutto quello che è contenuto. Se ti può aiutare, comincia a leggere gli effetti e noterai subito quali sono le tecniche maggiormente usate - che sono poi quelle che dovresti imparare!
"Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas, and how he got in my pajamas I'll never know" - Groucho Marx

luigicoinmagic
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09/01/2018, 12:36

avevo trovato qui sul forum questa guida per seguire il bobo secondo te è giusta posso seguire questa?
WEEK ONE - Basics

1. Read the Preface, Braun's Introduction, Acknowledgments, and the Prologue.

2. Skim Chapters 1 and 2. Read every word, and do not stop reading to try some of the sleights. It is very important that you understand Bobo's theories and philosophy, before you tackle the hard stuff.

3. Review Chapter 1, Coin Concealments, and practice all the sleights, with emphasis on the following:

a. Classic Palm; b. Edge Palm; c. Downs Palm; d. Finger Palm.

(NOTE: Give the various Clips and Front/Back Palms a look, but concentrate on the sleights listed above. Carry a coin at all times for practice.)

4. Review Chapter II, Basic Technique, and learn the following techniques:

a. Bobo Switch; b. Utility Switch; c. Click Pass; d. Bottom Steal; e. "Fumble" suggestions.
TEST YOURSELF ON CHAPTERS 1 & 2

WEEKS II & III - More Basics

1. Read Chapter III, Coin Vanishes. Read every word before beginning a re-read and emphasis of the following effects:

a. Standard Vanish; b. Thumb Palm Vanish; c. Illusive Coin Pass; d. A Coin Vanish; e. Gone; f. Flyaway Coin; g. Vanish for Several Coins.

(NOTE: Play around with all the material in the Chapter, but concentrate most of your efforts on the items listed above and the basics from the previous chapters.)

2. Read Chapter IV only after your have at least a working knowledge of the material in the first three chapters.

(NOTE: If, at the end of three weeks, you have not gained a working knowledge of Chapters 1 through 3, it would probably be best to continue practice and review of those chapters. But, do not become frustrated, because all of us have or have had problems with some of the material. JUST PLAY WITH IT. It is not life-essential material, but it does form the important basic foundation for more advanced coin work.

TEST YOURSELF ON CHAPTERS I - III

WEEKS IV & V - Putting it Together

1. Read Chapters IV, V, and XVI. Wow! There is a lot there, isn't there? And we haven't even scratched the surface yet. So, it is time to start putting it together, so to speak, and begin tailoring our own performances, complete with compatible routining and personalized patter. But, before we do that, let us do a little self appraisal.

2. Rate yourself on the following more-or-less desired skills, using three grading levels: Excellent, Good, Needs Work. Make a list of the "Needs Work" items and practice them before proceding to the next week's level.

a. Chap I, Coin Concealments: Classic Palm, Edge Palm, Thumb Palm, Finger Palm.

b. Chap II, Basic Technique: Bobo Switch, Utility Switch, One Hand Switch, Click Pass, Bottom Steal, "Fumbles"

c. Chap III, Coin Vanishes: Standard Vanish, Simple Vanish, Thumb Palm Vanish, Illusive Coin Pass, A Coin Vanish, Pinch Vanish, Gone, Flyaway Coin, French Drop, Handkerchief Coin Vanish, Vanish for Several Coins.

3. Using all the knowledge you know and information from Chapters I through V and Chapter XVI, put together a Single-Coin Routine, using the first three suggested routines in Chapter XVI. If you do not know the effects suggested in those routines, look them up or substitute an effect you already know.
(NOTE: When you have organized and perfected a good Walkaround/Standup routine, per 3 above, you will be ready to proceed to the Conquering Bobo Checklist which will take you to the remainder of the text.

CONQUERING BOBO

1. If you have completed the "Weeks IV & V", you are ready to plan your own personalized advanced study through the remainder of the Bobo text. This checklist will assist you by suggesting some short cuts, and, most importantly, it will point toward the classic coin tricks you should know.

NOTE: Spend about a week on each of the following items with emphasis on learning at least one new trick per week or the number suggested for the item.

2. Week VI -
a. Read Chapters VI and VII.
b. Play around with the material in those chapters.

3. Weeks VII and VIII -
a. Read Chapter VIII.
b. Spend two weeks on this Chapter, and, as a minimum, learn four effects. (Some may require you to visit a magic shop.)

4. Week IX and X -
a. Re

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09/01/2018, 13:53

Perché non leggi la risposta che già avevo dato all'epoca?
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